ME: How many laps are you going to do for your Fun Run at school?
GAVIN: Probably about 40.
ME: Wow, that's a lot!
GAVIN: Yeah, I'm probably going to win. I have to get 1st, 2nd or 3rd place. All the other places are for losers. I'm a winner, not a loser.
ME: Well, ok then.
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